JurassicBGTS Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 Trying to negotiate as much as possible out of the OPC on my potential S purchase. I have asked them that a map upgrade would have to be carried out as part of the deal. I thought there was a 2019 update but they confirm the latest is 2018 for the 981. They will only go 50% towards the cost so it would be £150 extra. Has anyone had this map update? Is it worth having done or just minor changes and the systems not really fit for current use anyway🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowbos Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 What year is the current map if you don't update? There is nothing worse than missing roads or dodgy information on a map - that said I find Waze or Google maps better in almost all cases but I do like the convenience of built in SatNav 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, JurassicGTS said: They will only go 50% towards the cost so it would be £150 extra. I find that poor, buying from an OPC. I'd expect to have software and systems updated. Maybe someone thinks it's hardware as it's a new DVD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike597 Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 VW group charge a fricking fortune for map data across all of their product lines. 300 quid for a software map update doesn't sound too far out of line with what I'd expect them to charge. The problem is the dealer gets charged by head office so they can't discount it, anything they give to you in discount comes out of their bottom line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurassicBGTS Posted September 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, rowbos said: What year is the current map if you don't update? There is nothing worse than missing roads or dodgy information on a map - that said I find Waze or Google maps better in almost all cases but I do like the convenience of built in SatNav 🤔 It would be a 2014 map. In the overall picture it's probably worth having done. Edited September 15, 2021 by JurassicGTS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowbos Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 Just now, JurassicGTS said: It would be a 2014 map. I'd want an update to 2018 personally... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul P Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 Think the latest maps For pcm 3 and 3.1 are “called” 2019 but are actually dated 2018. you shouldn’t need to use an alternative method and even if you did go “grey market” For updates it’s still 100 quid. but I agree - the OPC should be trying a bit harder for that kind of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz05 Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 Put that towards a carplay retrofit the nav is terrible anyway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSMarky Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 As Daz says, the Nav in the 981 is shocking & not worth turning on even.. or at least I never use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickLS7 Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 You can get the latest map update from a guy on ebay, it was £99 when I did mine and was painless. Porsche navigation is hardly cutting edge as others have mentioned but I do like the integration on the 3rd binnacle which is something you'd lose going for an aftermarket unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey P Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 38 minutes ago, GTSMarky said: As Daz says, the Nav in the 981 is shocking & not worth turning on even.. or at least I never use it. That makes me feel much better, knowing I'm not missing out, as mine hasn't got navigation fitted. Can anyone confirm that the bluetooth telephone kit is also rubbish, just to give me a sense of smugness, and ensure I don't feel like a 2nd class citizen...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iborguk Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, Davey P said: That makes me feel much better, knowing I'm not missing out, as mine hasn't got navigation fitted. Can anyone confirm that the bluetooth telephone kit is also rubbish, just to give me a sense of smugness, and ensure I don't feel like a 2nd class citizen...? I find it works OK with the roof down...oh wait 🤭 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowbos Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, Davey P said: That makes me feel much better, knowing I'm not missing out, as mine hasn't got navigation fitted. Can anyone confirm that the bluetooth telephone kit is also rubbish, just to give me a sense of smugness, and ensure I don't feel like a 2nd class citizen...? You are 2nd class. Wipe that smug look of your face! I like having built in Nav, I pity your lack of mapping, I can feel your Nav-envy starting to build... 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenman Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 I updated mine from 14 to 18 a couple of years ago via a guy on eBay, there’s a thread on here about it as around 10 people did it at the same time. I use Nav regularly and have no issues with it, it works fine. The only major pain is stop offs/waypoints etc which are implemented in a very unintuitive way and only allow 4 stopoffs. Additionally there’s no easy mechanism for importing or exporting routes to a PC or similar. Having said that, I wouldn’t pay to update to 18 now as an update is probably due in next few months and you would be better off updating to the 2021/22 version. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo_UK Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Davey P said: That makes me feel much better, knowing I'm not missing out, as mine hasn't got navigation fitted. Can anyone confirm that the bluetooth telephone kit is also rubbish, just to give me a sense of smugness, and ensure I don't feel like a 2nd class citizen...? No nav and no bluetooth for Google Maps to announce over? What? I'd sell the car now! Next you'll be saying you don't have Bose either. And massage seats, you have massage seats, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patt Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Keep in mind they may also charge for a PCM software update on top of the map update. Ensure that is all you are paying for the map upgrade ! I find the 3rd binnacle so useful - I tend to have the distance to next junction displayed in there and the map/ road numbers on the main screen. I use it all the time. Also they have to report their sold units by the end of next month - this gives that dealership it's allocation of new cars for the following year.....they will want to sell that car even more as time ticks towards that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowbos Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, Simo_UK said: No nav and no bluetooth for Google Maps to announce over? What? I'd sell the car now! Next you'll be saying you don't have Bose either. And massage seats, you have massage seats, right? You barstard 😂 Poor Davey will be sobbing in his poverty spec Cayman about now I guess 🤔 😇 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Davey P said: That makes me feel much better, knowing I'm not missing out, as mine hasn't got navigation fitted. Can anyone confirm that the bluetooth telephone kit is also rubbish, just to give me a sense of smugness, and ensure I don't feel like a 2nd class citizen...? In the 80s the 2CV had some of the best adverts ever, I remember this one. Edited September 16, 2021 by Menoporsche 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermot Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 anyone tried using one of these outfits... https://www.navdeal.com/en/dvd-gps-porsche-2018-2019-6-5-1-pcm3-1-pcm-3-1-navigation-europe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey P Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 29 minutes ago, rowbos said: You barstard 😂 Poor Davey will be sobbing in his poverty spec Cayman about now I guess 🤔 😇 It's not "Poverty Spec", it's "DRIVER FOCUSSED!!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowbos Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Davey P said: It's not "Poverty Spec", it's "DRIVER FOCUSSED!!!" Sorry, yes that what I meant to say 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey P Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 1 minute ago, rowbos said: Sorry, yes that what I meant to say 😂 Apology accepted, it's an easy mistake to make Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubaregs Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, Davey P said: It's not "Poverty Spec", it's "DRIVER FOCUSSED!!!" Not focussed on the great outdoors though, eh? 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSMarky Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Davey P said: That makes me feel much better, knowing I'm not missing out, as mine hasn't got navigation fitted. Can anyone confirm that the bluetooth telephone kit is also rubbish, just to give me a sense of smugness, and ensure I don't feel like a 2nd class citizen...? Nope. The Bluetooth works well.. Sorry about that! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSMarky Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Perhaps I should add that for the last ~ 4 years I've sat behind the Audi Virtual Cockpit in my daily, so that does tend to make most other systems look pretty rubbish. The main issue with the Porsche unit is the screen resolution and speed. I also don't like the fact it will persistently override the 3rd binnacle with info whether you want it to not. Like I say, it stays off nowadays.. I had a new V60 as a demo a while back and their newest nav/screen was pants in comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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