bally4563 Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 I can imagine this could be quite a emotive subject, however most of the peeps in here started out with a 986 as I did, but having owned multiple 987 … would I go back ..nah! Personally I just think the 987 is just that little but more evolved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
½cwt Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 There's a clear decade move on in interior and exterior design and more modern electronics, but is the driving experience that much different? Open question, as I've only driven a 987 for a few miles as opposed to 4 years in a 986. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryg Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 My 987 is a better car in every respect but my 986 was somehow more of an event, as I have said before, a 986 in Ireland is not viable for tax reasons, if it were, I may have considered going back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topbox Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 Fair comment, and the fact the 986 is not so evolved would be the reason it remains an attractive car to many. Old stuff, it's a whole industry across a whole range of things and activities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 Used a 987 for a day on loan and it's a far more resolved car than the 986 imho, much less of a step from a 'modern'. But the raw feel of the 986 is what does it for me. But then I'm old and I like old things... 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 Evolved vs involved Usually say “more raw” or “more refined”, make your choice. (Unless you’re over 6ft3…) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 As I said a very emotive subject open to a great deal of debate. Not ever going to knock a 986 got me in the saddle so to speak.. but for me a 987 just makes the experience that more enjoyable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobbie Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 minute ago, bally4563 said: As I said a very emotive subject open to a great deal of debate. Not ever going to knock a 986 got me in the saddle so to speak.. but for me a 987 just makes the experience that more enjoyable I suppose you welcome the comfort when you’re getting on a bit😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nobbie said: I suppose you welcome the comfort when you’re getting on a bit😀 🖕a previous peep possibly defined it the first is quite raw where the latter is a little more refined 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally4563 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, bally4563 said: 🖕a previous peep possibly defined it the first is quite raw where the latter is a little more refined And if you fully understand where I coming from I totally take the 986 as a excellent car .. but for me the next transition ticks all the boxes!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edc Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 There is a subliminal message in the "moving up" as though the 986 is inferior. It's undoubtedly newer and more modern and generally that means more refined and comfrortable as that is the trend across nearly all cars. Nobody talks about moving up from 993 to a 997 or an Alfa 105 GTV to a new Giulia or from a MK1 or 2 Golf to a MK3 of MK4 Golf. The same applies to the term 'upgrade'. It's an easy way to try and justify your spending and add some perceived value but for parts and mods it's normally more appropriate to say uprated or updated rather than upgraded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brillomaster Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 i started in a 986 two years ago, but even then the car i really wanted was a 987. planning on swapping over in the spring. i'm not expecting the driving experience to be hugely different, but there are a myriad of other little things (interior much more modern, gearchange, seats, exterior looks, a touch more power, bigger wheels) that i think will be really beneficial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 Just to put a spanner in the works..... how about the subtle change within the models... ie: 986.1 to a 986.2 and 987.1 to 987.2.....? Loved my 1st Boxster.. 2003 2.7 manual, twas got me into the brand without breaking the bank.... now lucky to own a manual 2.9 987.2... love it too. Two completely different cars in many ways but also massively similar and the essence hasn't been lost in transition.... both are top notch drivers cars...!!! New car day on picking both up nearly 8 years apart was WOW WOW WOW.... that's the thing, they both feel special in their own right and that's what makes you feel special driving them. Si. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDonald Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, brillomaster said: i started in a 986 two years ago, but even then the car i really wanted was a 987. planning on swapping over in the spring. i'm not expecting the driving experience to be hugely different, but there are a myriad of other little things (interior much more modern, gearchange, seats, exterior looks, a touch more power, bigger wheels) that i think will be really beneficial. I've never driven a 986 but my 987.1 is a very satisfying drive. I'll be interested in your observations after you've made the trade. I don't think there's much difference to the interior, they both have a period feel - which I like. The exterior styling of the 987 is slightly more pleasing to my eye but it's detail really. They're both beautiful with simple, curved lines. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bike Loon Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 I went from a 986 3.2 to a 987.1 3.2 to a 987.1 3.4. I am 6ft3 and found the extra space in the 987 a bonus. The biggest difference is in the interior, the 986 is very 1980's and the 987 is a lot more modern. Not a lot in it in performance as the power difference is only small really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 12 hours ago, edc said: There is a subliminal message in the "moving up" as though the 986 is inferior. It's undoubtedly newer and more modern and generally that means more refined and comfrortable as that is the trend across nearly all cars. Nobody talks about moving up from 993 to a 997 or an Alfa 105 GTV to a new Giulia or from a MK1 or 2 Golf to a MK3 of MK4 Golf. The same applies to the term 'upgrade'. It's an easy way to try and justify your spending and add some perceived value but for parts and mods it's normally more appropriate to say uprated or updated rather than upgraded. Similar to those who talk about moving up / upgrading to a 911. Some are happy with the change, others found it wasn't really what they wanted and changed back to a Boxster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryg Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 There is a hint of "rose tinted specs" to my memory of my 986, in truth it really only became that good with all the mods, the standout ones being the short shift with roller bearings and BAD side arm, the tubular headers, 200 cell cats, bypass and centre console delete. The wheels and MO30 made it aesthetically better. Would I want to go back to a standard 986 and not do those same mods again. No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninesomething Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 Have to say the 981 is a big step up from the 987 too. Course you have to live with the electrc steering but it's a much better all round car. Doesn't make the earlier ones bad. Just a bit different. Under the skin they're all the same thing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewtrees Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 4 hours ago, JonSta said: Have to say the 981 is a big step up from the 987 too. Course you have to live with the electrc steering but it's a much better all round car. Doesn't make the earlier ones bad. Just a bit different. Under the skin they're all the same thing. Is the handling better behaved? From many reviews by journo's the driving experience is more diluted with each generation becoming more remote. My own reservations are the electric steering, 4cyls (if that's what it has), oversized wheels for the weight i.e. 20" or more as you get less feedback on those, way too many electronic gizmos to go wrong and aesthetics of post 987 models to me are not classic Porsche i.e. they've changed the design language for the range to try and look contemporary but just navigated closer to a Hyundai.. This could be exactly what YOU want though and in which case np from me 🍿 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brillomaster Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 its a weird one from me... while i'd love a 987, i can't ever see myself in a 981. electric steering i could live with (though would prefer hydraulic - the steering on my 986 is great) but I don't like the design language of a 981 particularly, and would never consider a 4 cylinder boxster. and i dont say 'never' very often! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brillomaster Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 Ahem... a 4 cyl boxster being a 982, obviously... ☺️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDonald Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 44 minutes ago, brillomaster said: Ahem... a 4 cyl boxster being a 982, obviously... ☺️ If you don't like it, you don't remember it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menoporsche Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 5 hours ago, fewtrees said: aesthetics of post 987 models to me are not classic Porsche i.e. they've changed the design language for the range to try and look contemporary but just navigated closer to a Hyundai.. Excuse me, it was well established on here when they came out that they were just like the Mk3 MR2. Hyundai, indeed... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxsum Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 I think for the majority the 986 is an introduction to Porsche ownership on a budget and really we all want a 911😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brillomaster Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 i dunno, a 911 hasn't ever been top of my list - can't get over the 'engine in the wrong place' issue... but then again, porsche has never made the ideal car - a boxster GT3. imagine, the 3.8 litre or 4.0 litre mezger flat 6, correctly placed in the middle of the car... if i did ever find myself in a 911 it'll likely be a daily. and if its a daily, it'll likely be an auto. the weekend car will remain a manual, with the engine in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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