dpg123 Posted February 7, 2020 Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 Keen for some pics of the battle damaged beast back on the road! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATM Posted February 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 Ok here we go..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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zagamuffin Posted February 7, 2020 Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 I see gts diffusers in your future ... ;) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvw Posted February 7, 2020 Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 Much respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATM Posted February 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 Front looks great then you go round the back and think err what's happened there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATM Posted February 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 Breaking news I have an oil leak. It smells like gearbox oil to me. Not just a couple of drops too. Pic below. Also the gear change was really jerky this morning. Is that related to low gearbox oil or just a symptom of the engine being cold. I've never noticed this jerking as bad before. It was barely noticeable before but now feels like a learner driver who doesn't know how to drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobbie Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 That's bad news🙁 When you say it smells like gearbox oil, do you mean like the old EP80/90 stuff which is very distinctive, if so this would likely be coming from the differential which I think is separate to the rest of the PDK box which would have ATF in it. Not sure why this should cause dodgy changes though🤔 Given that the driveshaft was ripped out of the differential, a bit of damage here is not unexpected. Good luck tracing the leak. Could you put a container underneath so you can check the colour of the fluid coming out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATM Posted February 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 25 minutes ago, Nobbie said: That's bad news🙁 When you say it smells like gearbox oil, do you mean like the old EP80/90 stuff which is very distinctive, if so this would likely be coming from the differential which I think is separate to the rest of the PDK box which would have ATF in it. Not sure why this should cause dodgy changes though🤔 Given that the driveshaft was ripped out of the differential, a bit of damage here is not unexpected. Good luck tracing the leak. Could you put a container underneath so you can check the colour of the fluid coming out? I just stuck my finger in and then sniffed it - like a teenager .... cancel that - and it is not engine oil. Got a tangy smell to it. Would they be different colours then? I presumed the box and the diff shared the same fluid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz05 Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 Hope its not a PDK leak that will be expensive. Any codes? The PDK box usually throws codes if something isn't right to protect itself so my bet is that it's not coming from there. The carista app works to some extent on the 981 if you don't have a code reader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATM Posted February 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 Can you see some drops on passenger side - it's a bit damp and I didn't move the car so maybe not ideal but it doesn't too bad today. No faults on the dash. I did have a fault for low gearbox oil when the car was missing its half shaft and sitting on 3 wheels. Back a few pages in this thread. So I know the sensor works and this time no warning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobbie Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 4 hours ago, ATM said: I just stuck my finger in and then sniffed it - like a teenager .... cancel that - and it is not engine oil. Got a tangy smell to it. Would they be different colours then? I presumed the box and the diff shared the same fluid. I'm pretty sure that will be diff oil as I've just realised that the PDK box won't have conventional ATF fluid in since it doesn't use a torque converter. Diff oil has a really distinctive smell, so 'tangy' probably confirms that. There is a separate reservoir for the clutches, but doubt it's that. Here's a guide to changing the diff oil which should give you some useful info in your fault finding. https://rennlist.com/forums/987-981-forum/1080116-diy-gear-oil-change-on-981s-pdk.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATM Posted February 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 Yeah its definitely the gearbox oil because the gearbox just went into limp mode on me and threw up the error I've seen which indicates low fluid. Car would only give me 1st and reverse. Turned it off for a few seconds and then back on and it was fine to get me home. It might just be in my head but I can smell it now just getting out of the car and walking round the back of the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobbie Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 Have you topped it up before or got a garage to do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATM Posted February 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 9 hours ago, Nobbie said: Have you topped it up before or got a garage to do it? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz05 Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) The PDK oil is very long life, think the interval is 12yrs (120k) so is very expensive service item to change at the OPC, potentially £1k plus. There is most likely a requirement that it is completely drained and refilled. Edited February 13, 2020 by daz05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiftspark Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 £1k for an oil change 😲 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickLS7 Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 Sure my specialist charge half that. First thing that needs investigating is why it’s leaking, may be a seal but might be much worse and the casings cracked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Days Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) Our Macan has the PDK oil renewed every 40k as per manufacturer's instructions. Costs about 250 from memory from the OPC when done with the service. Can't see why the Box would be any different. Edited February 13, 2020 by Happy Days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz05 Posted February 13, 2020 Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, Happy Days said: Our Macan has the PDK oil renewed every 40k as per manufacturer's instructions. Costs about 250 from memory from the OPC when done with the service. Can't see why the Box would be any different. Because it's not a VW in drag. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATM Posted February 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2020 19 hours ago, Nobbie said: I'm pretty sure that will be diff oil as I've just realised that the PDK box won't have conventional ATF fluid in since it doesn't use a torque converter. Diff oil has a really distinctive smell, so 'tangy' probably confirms that. There is a separate reservoir for the clutches, but doubt it's that. Here's a guide to changing the diff oil which should give you some useful info in your fault finding. https://rennlist.com/forums/987-981-forum/1080116-diy-gear-oil-change-on-981s-pdk.html This guy just throws in some 75w90 at home on his drive. That sounds simple enough. Thanks Nobbie. They seem to favour Motul fully synthetic but it looks like 75w90 oil is available all over the place like Halfords etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATM Posted February 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 Got some oil which appears to be off the shelf stuff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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